The wreckage will be recovered on Wednesday, June 8. In the publication it states that if an airplane was manufactured without shoulder harnesses, the owner should obtain a kit to install them from the manufacturer or manufacturer's local representative. 4 fatal. Replies. Snow was observed falling. Yes exactly. Not sure why there's a discrepancy between the plate and the database (another FAA problem: which elevation, if either, is correct?). 1, 1, 1 1/2, 2 statute mile visibility was not previously discussed in comments.) The ladder going to the top of the stack is in three sections going to three platforms. It's interesting to see search results reveal the unattributed copying that the error gives away.Posting the full source info link is a good practice that provides complete information in proper context. He saw the KR comments detailing 2 statute mile visibility METAR trending 2.5 miles with lowest clouds well above MDA and also the correlated and mapped descent angle calculations.Tuber commenting by the mindless fans is praising him for apologizing in what was just his latest heartless disparaging of a lost pilot for views. You got misled by time compressed comm presentations provided as four minute videos on youtube. Granted, the winds were strong on the day this video was shot, but I can't imagine it being much worse on a calm day. The approach plate shows the smokestack at 4,304' MSL. "Ducking under" wasn't still on the accident pilot's to do list by the time JAMID was reached. So 4,152' + 213' = 4,365' MSL at the smokestack. Most of "those pilots" (as you call them) do just fine at almost all single pilot 135 operations and if they "don't get it", it's your job to weed them out. Given the wing spans of aircraft, the rising steam, and a gusty day, 100ft is much too little. "Same document, regarding high intensity flashing white obstruction lights during daytime with automatically selected reduced intensities for twilight and nighttime operations:"should not be recommended on structures 500 feet (153m) AGL or less unless an FAA aeronautical study shows otherwise."https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC%2070%207460-1K.pdf. What a dumb place to put the potato factory, lots of open land, but yeahhh lets put factory with stem stacks right on short final. I can't understand why this approach even exists. The aircraft departed the Houston . Not sure why there would be a belief that the preliminary indicates that investigators have settled on "sucked down" as the cause, but that type of weird phrasing is typical tuber fandom carryover as mentioned in the post you responded to, proving the point perfectly - Thanks! The "airport shouldn't be there"I'm reminded of the jet that took off in CT short runway. She went on to graduate from ATP Flight School in Mesa, Arizona in 2019. *That's very little margin for error, and that's following the published approach on the plate. There is a LOT of detail logged in the G1000 system onboard these aircraft. She was descending at 700 / minute. Notice how the un-guarded ladder portion below the guarded portion of the ladder above the mid-deck platform is angled as a result of the top of the caged portion of the upper ladder having been pushed to the left.Pre-accident street view shows ladder system was straight:https://goo.gl/maps/tPdJ43wFNooD2PUX8, Viewing from ground level by opening and swinging around in these views provides additional context: Street view looking at RW20 centerline from 7th street that can be spun around to face the other way:https://goo.gl/maps/Mv4KYwWvVj7FTW2s5Street view showing another side view of stacks, single stack that is the subject of ladder discussion is at the far right:https://goo.gl/maps/Jfy1KdpC4Yfyiwu77, ^^ Corrected link for pre-accident street view that shows yellow ladder system was straight:https://goo.gl/maps/CqTD5vsKPo3e2cK99. Delete. Ditching in a foot or two of water thats spilling onto the sand, as he appeared to do, is so much easier than ditching outside the breakers where you would encounter wave crests and troughs. Maybe what should come out of all this is some sort of program to break up such deadly illusions beforehand. Easy enough to fact check using Adsbexchange and the LiveAtc recording.Results:-Cleared for takeoff @7 minute mark on LiveAtc-ADS-B shows airborne by @23:08:23Z-Flies along coast, gets halfway to Malibu-No airspeed or altitude trouble so far-ADS-B shows a turnback starting @23:14:00-"I'd like to return" @14 minute mark LiveAtc-ADS-B speed & altitude degrading on the way back-Declares Emergency just before 16 minute mark -ATC offers "left base for runway 3" @17 minute mark-ADS-B shows crossing the pier @23:18:04Simple to listen to comm audio source files for yourself:https://www.liveatc.net/archive.phpThis accident's file is found by selecting:Date: 22 December, Time: 2300-2330Z, Feed: "KSMO Tower #1". It's not the answers that friends and family will want.The Caravans of today, even one 9 years old, are equipped with the G1000 avionics system, really about a dozen computers. One possible cause of a flameout could be the accumulation of ice and snow on the PT-6 turbine compressor section intake screen. This is all in the best glide speed numbers. Crashed at 8:32 AM. She loved flying the Idaho backcountry while working for Gem Air as well as flying UPS routes in Idaho and Utah. A pilot can do a CDFA to the VDP, or "dive and drive" to the self-calculated VDP, either is legal, OK. It is possible to calculate the as-flown descent angle that the aircraft experienced between the final two full ADS-B data points and see if it was 3, 3.75 or something else using rise run to angle conversion. Every banality gets analyzed superficially and repackaged as advice or fear. Let me throw mine out there if I may:The simplest, a descent to MDA that was not arrested. 2 Vista residents killed in small plane crash in Arizona. This information is added by users of ASN. E.g. It sounds like your operation needs to improve its pilot evaluation, vetting, and training. The "I'd like to return" call is actually heard much later, around the 14 minute mark in the unedited LiveAtc recording, at which time ADS-B shows the corresponding position is at the turn back location, halfway to Malibu.The tuber's incorrect synchronization is made worse by text placed at the start of the video titled "Nature of the situation" stating that the pilot wanted to return "just after departure" when in fact he made that call several miles up the beach while well on the way to Malibu.The channel that posted that video is attempting to mimic a well known channel that properly time synchronizes track position to comm timing. If there is an option because the beach is completely unoccupied, is there an ideal choice to make between aiming for the sand or the water? Couple years ago we hired an attractive young lady, a flight instructor, to fly Caravans at our single-pilot Pt.135 operation. Anonymous Wednesday, December 21, . Your top of stack AGL estimate is off somehow - the building roof would have to be 90 feet high. Frost changes the basic aerodynamics of the airfoil, thereby causing reduced lift.Ice collects on and seriously hampers the function of not only wings and control surfaces and propellers, but also windscreens and canopies, radio antennas, pilot tubes and static vents, carburetors and air intakes. The insurance company, the salvage team, the trauma center were all baffled at how I survived the crash. A National Transportation Safety Board investigator arrived on the scene on Tuesday. However, this data alone does not provide the basis for a determination regarding the. Weather, 20 minutes before incident, was 1 mile, light snow, broken at 2300, overcast at 2800. At some time before noon on August 7, 2020, a Turbo Cessna 210 took off from Roosevelt, Utah, for a fair-weather daytime flight. The pilot had the right idea to land on the hard-packed sand. It's just a matter of how priorities are arranged. Looking at the #1,2 & 3 truck bays on the tater building, the roof height looks to be about 26 feet.This was the image used showing the truck bays:https://goo.gl/maps/xinz7GVPnjkDvJUp6The height AGL to top of stack (if the stack has not been changed from what is seen in the street view image) would be about 70 + 26, making it roughly 100 feet instead of 150. Chelsea Brittney Infanger, returned to her Heavenly Father unexpectedly on April 13, 2022. Prior to that, the 6,950' altitude transmitted while going back for the second attempt adjusts to the expected 7,000' with the +50' compensation. Witnesses on the ground said the plane's wings came off mid-air in high winds before a shower of debris fell from the sky. Agreed - not assuming willful pilot disregard of minimums until PT-6 operation is evaluated is the responsible viewpoint until investigation makes determinations.Accident aircraft was a 2013 production aircraft, not a steam gage model. "Sucked right into that smokestack by the steam cloud!" The airplane subsequently struck the smokestack and fell to the rooftop. What do you think all those government agencies are like the SEC and OSHA are for? The April 4 METAR headwind of 9 knots at the time is added to the ground speeds, making airspeed 96 knots in the 09:53:05 AM April 4 data point (note that the arcing track getting from the 09:52:44 to the 09:53:05 data point is actually a further distance than straight line, making the true airspeed slightly higher):April 4 METARS (from mesonet.agron.iastate.edu):KBYI 041350Z AUTO 22009KT 10SM CLR 04/M08 A2975KBYI 041353Z AUTO 23009KT 10SM CLR 05/M08 A2975For the accident day, the April 13 METAR headwind of 8 knots at the time is added to the ADS-B reported ground speeds.At 21 seconds before reaching the tater building's edge and 300 feet higher, airspeed was 81 + 8 = 89 knots:Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 216 81 93 4,450 -750http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5578+-113.7532At reaching the edge of the building, 80 + 8 = 88 knots: Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5520+-113.7592. 18. Where the airplane could've flown 20 feet further, then everyone may have walked away. The KBYI AWOS observations already cited above all gave evidence of Icing Conditions of -SN (light snow) and below freezing temperatures. The silos were within TERPS requirements. According to the operator, the pilot was transporting cargo on an instrument flight rules flight from the Salt Lake City International Airport (SLC), Salt Lake City, Utah, to the Burley Municipal Airport (BYI), Burley, Idaho. Cessna 182P Skylane, N58807: Fatal accident occurred September 05, 2022 in Cleveland, Bradley County, Tennessee . "Nothing new under the sun." The obstacle she hit was less than half a mile from the runway and at or below 100 AGL, so unless you think the weather somehow magically decreased to 200 ft ceilings and half a mile vis, she definitely had the runway in sight well before she hit the obstacles, so "busting minimums" was not a factor.If you are focused on approaching a short runway, there is no VSGI to guide you on the required steep non-standard descent angle, it can be easy to miss the grey colored obstacles that don't stand out. The decision to divert was made before descending from cruise altitude. The imgur caption has the correct runway number. A viewpoint location one quarter mile (1,320 feet) toward the airport from the stack (such as at Gossner's areas adjacent to 7th Avenue) would be very likely to see the approaching aircraft appear to descend into the water vapor plume, but viewpoint locations off to the side of the flight track or Northeast of the stacks have a different perspective.Plant has operated since 2011, so there has been a long period of opportunity where the water vapor plume from the dryer stacks were operating under similar weather conditions and subject to observation, photos and videos of plume behaviour in all wx conditions.Potato plant created artificial IFR conditions! except for a steam cloud that probably obscured some smoke stacks and towers. Following a structural failure, a 1992 Mooney M20M crashed in Victoria, Minnesota, last Saturday (August 7, 2021), while it was approaching to land at Flying Cloud (KFCM) Airport in Minnesota. Burley Airfield should either stop 020 approaches, and/or the "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" should run a pipe up from the Snake River to condense and recover its steam inside the factory, and reposition that isolated lethal stack. She was always striving to be an example of Christ and share His love with others. The plant releases huge quantities of hot water vapour through stacks, (industrial chimneys). FlightAware's track log is heavily sampled and rounded, showing one track point every 20-30 seconds despite ADS-B transmitting a data point every second. That obstacle is this 140 foot radio tower near the United Metals Recycling plant, which is 0.6 NM north east of the Gem State stack:https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5584036,-113.7480359,3a,86.2y,335.86h,111.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfD-logCbUr79CSW4DcVyPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656None of the Gem State stacks are shown anywhere on the approach plate. Condolences and humble prayers to Brittneys family and kin. Ice on the rotor and starter blades affects their performance and efficiency and may result in flame out. He wanted to ban jets at SMO and ultimately close it. You are on your own to figure out an appropriate descent angle to keep you clear of the numerous hazardous obstacles on final. Newer editions of the Cessna Caravan contain updated glass instrumentation with Garmin G600 or G1000 systems and weeping wing TKS ice prevention systems.Please do not assume that classic rookie pilot mistakes are at play here. Very sorry for her Family, she sounds like an amazing lady, should have lived to be an airline captain for many years, if thats what she was building time for.I have about a thousand single Pilot IFR hours between our CE-340 and Aztec F, both were very nice handling airplanes, but was taught by my CFII Dad, that if you cant get in the first time an go missed, its not going to get any better on the second try, and you will likely try to "force" your way injust decide its time to go someplace else, and hopefully you brought enough fuel to get thereof course I flew part 91 and wasnt under any pressure to deliver the goodsmy hats off to the freight dogs who have to fly in any weather, it just seems like a risky way to build time to a right seat at a regional.. Visitation will begin at 10:30 the morning of the funeral. youre implying that a 30 year old female had a major medical incident the moment she was on final approach in marginal wx and that caused the accident. 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